Winners, Losers . . . And the Rest of Us

January 10, 2010 at 11:27 am (By Amba, By Ron) (, , , )

A dialogue you might enjoy listening in on.  It started with a comment Ron left on the preceding post.

Ron: People don’t have a language for praising/understanding non-winners. They immediately think ‘loser’, and can’t understand people who just won’t play.

Ron: Something that has changed also is that we have given up any notion of a “good try” or “fair play” having any particular virtue.  It is somewhat cynically assumed that winners “write the history” so who cares about playing fair!

I wonder how much of this “winnerism” is a backlash to an increased theraputic/egalitarian (hmmm… feminized?) culture?

The virtue of teaching people sports is that it shows you how to lose, and losing occurs a lot in life.  But now we just consign losers to gehenna…

Amba: My father once pointed out that for every team that wins a baseball pennant, — ? — I don’t know the correct numbers now — 11? have to lose.  He thought about writing a book called “Losing:  A Baseball Odyssey.”  Never did, though.

Ron: A great Hitter in baseball fails 7 times out of 10!  Humbling…

But why do you think they take steroids…because a clean loser would still be thought of as a loser;  we beat on winners who take drugs, but ignore clean losers.  Being ignored in America is worse than being a villain.

Amba: There’s a big world of non-winners out there.  We’re like dark matter.

Only the stars shine, but we’ve got mass, baby.

Ron: and Charm!  and odd motion in the Z axis!  err…skip that one.

Permalink 28 Comments